播音员：拜登总统与德国总理肖尔茨在白宫举行会议，讨论了在阻止俄罗斯对乌克兰的侵略方面的共同利益。两人被问及对俄罗斯的可能制裁，以及如果俄罗斯入侵乌克兰，从俄罗斯到德国的北溪2路天然气管道是否会被阻止启用。女士们，先生们，这是美国总统和德意志联邦共和国总理。

PRESIDENT BIDEN HELD A MEETING WITH GERMAN CHANCELLOR OLAF SCHULTZ AT THE WHITE HOUSE TO TALK ABOUT SHARED INTERESTS IN DETERRING RUSSIAN AGGRESSION AGAINST UKRAINE. THE TWO WERE ASKED ABOUT POSSIBLE SANCTIONS AGAINST RUSSIA AND WHETHER THE NORD STREAM 2 GAS PIPELINE FROM RUSSIA TO GERMANY WOULD BE BLOCKED FROM MOVING FORWARD IF THERE WAS AN INVASION BY RUSSIA INTO UKRAINE. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CHANCELLOR OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF GERMANY.

拜登和肖尔茨分别致开场白几分钟。（掠过）

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拜登：谢谢。我和肖尔茨总下面回答大家问我们的几个问题。路透社的安德莉娅，你来第一个问题。THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL TAKE A COUPLE QUESTIONS EACH. REUTERS, ANDREA, YOU HAVE THE FIRST QUESTION.

记者安德莉娅：谢谢你，总统先生。谢谢你，肖尔茨总理。先生。总统，我想问你关于你长期反对的这个北溪管道项目的情况。你刚才介绍情况时没提北溪的名字，肖尔茨总理也没提到。你今天是否得到德国的保证，如果俄罗斯入侵乌克兰，德国实际上将撤消这个项目？你们是否讨论过俄国入侵的定义是什么？然后，肖尔茨总理，如果我可以问的话，肖尔茨总理，你说在制裁方面需要一些战略上的模糊性。我只是想知道，你所设想的、你正在做的、美国也正在做的对俄国的制裁安排是否已经完成、定稿，还是仍在进行中的工作？你并没有真正说细节是什么。这是否只是一个借口，德国可能不支持SWIFT措施？

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, CHANCELLOR SCHOLZ. MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT THIS NORD STREAM PROJECT YOU LONG OPPOSED. YOU DIDN'T MENTION IT JUST NOW BY NAME NOR BY CHANCELLOR SCHOLZ. DID YOU RECEIVE ASSURANCE FROM CHANCELLOR SCHOLZ TODAY THAT GERMANY WILL IN FACT PULL THE PLUG ON THIS PROJECT IF RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE? AND DID YOU DISCUSS WHAT THE DEFINITION OF INVASION COULD BE? AND THEN CHANCELLOR SCHOLZ -- IF I MAY ASK, CHANCELLOR SCHOLZ, YOU SAID THERE WERE SOME STRATEGIC AMBIGUITIES THAT WAS NEEDED IN TERMS OF SANCTIONS. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHETHER THE SANCTIONS YOU ARE ENVISIONING AND YOU ARE WORKING ON AND THE U.S. AS WELL ALREADY FINISHED, FINALIZED, OR IS THERE STILL WORK ONGOING? YOU ARE NOT REALLY SAYING WHAT THE DETAILS ARE. IS THAT JUST AN EXCUSE, GERMANY MAY NOT SUPPORT THE SWIFT MEASURES?

拜登：让我先回答第一个问题。如果俄罗斯入侵，指的是坦克和军队再次越过乌克兰的边界。那么，就会......就不会再有北溪2路了。我们将终止它。

LET ME ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION FIRST. IF RUSSIA INVADES, THAT MEANS TANKS, TROOPS CROSSING THE BORDER OF UKRAINE AGAIN. THEN, THERE WILL BE -- THERE WILL BE NO LONGER A NORD STREAM 2. WE WILL BRING AN END TO IT.

记者：既然北溪管道项目和项目进程的控制在德国的控制范围内，你将如何做到这一点？HOW WILL YOU DO THAT EXACTLY SINCE THE PROJECT AND CONTROL OF THE PROJECT IS WITHIN GERMANY'S CONTROL?

拜登：我们将 -- 我向你保证，我们将能够做到这一点。WE WILL -- I PROMISE YOU WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IT.

肖尔茨总理：非常感谢你的问题。我想跟大家绝对说清楚 -- 我们已经做了充分的准备，以便在乌克兰受到军事侵略时准备好必要的制裁。这一点是必要的。我们有必要提前这样做，以便俄罗斯能够清楚地了解，这些是影响深远的严厉措施。这是 -- 这个过程的一部分，我们不公开说明一切，因为俄罗斯可以理解，可能会有更多的事情发生。同时，非常清楚的是，我们已经为深远的措施做好了准备。我们将与我们的盟友，与我们的伙伴，与美国一起采取这些措施，我们将采取所有必要的步骤。你可以肯定，不会有任何我们有不同做法的措施。我们将共同行动，联合起来。对我们的美国朋友说，我们将团结一致，这是一个好主意。我们将共同行动，我们将采取所有必要的步骤，所有必要的步骤都将由我们双方共同完成。

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR QUESTION. I WANT TO BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR -- WE HAVE INTENSIVELY PREPARED EVERYTHING TO BE READY WITH THE NECESSARY SANCTIONS IF THERE IS A MILITARY AGGRESSION AGAINST UKRAINE. AND THIS IS NECESSARY. IT IS NECESSARY THAT WE DO THIS IN ADVANCE SO THAT RUSSIA CAN CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ARE FAR-REACHING, SEVERE MEASURES. IT IS PART OF THE -- THIS PROCESS THAT WE DO NOT SPELL OUT EVERYTHING IN PUBLIC BECAUSE RUSSIA COULD UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MIGHT BE EVEN MORE TO COME. AND AT THE SAME TIME, IT IS VERY CLEAR WE'RE WELL PREPARED FOR FAR-REACHING MEASURES. WE WILL TAKE THESE MEASURES TOGETHER WITH OUR ALLIES, WITH OUR PARTNERS, WITH THE U.S., AND WE WILL TAKE ALL NECESSARY STEPS. YOU CAN BE SURE THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY MEASURES IN WHICH WE HAVE A DIFFERING APPROACH. WE WILL ACT TOGETHER, JOINTLY. IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO SAY TO OUR AMERICAN FRIENDS, WE WILL BE UNITED. WE WILL ACT TOGETHER, AND WE WILL TAKE ALL THE NECESSARY STEPS AND ALL THE NECESSARY STEPS WILL BE DONE BY BOTH OF US TOGETHER.

后注：

北溪管道的主要股东是俄国国家控股能源公司Gazprom，该公司控制78%的俄国天然气产量，占北溪管道的51%股份。

拜登和肖尔茨2022年2月7日会晤后，北溪2路管道的确如他们所说没继续启用。北溪1路则继续使用到俄国9月2日宣布无限期关掉停用。

2022年2月24日，俄国发动对乌克兰的战争。随后遭遇到欧洲绝大多数国家的联合制裁

2022年7月25日，北溪管道大股东俄国国家控股公司Gazprom宣布将输气下调到容量的20%，并停止供气10天。

2022年8月31日，Gazprom停止通过管道供气3天。

2022年9月2日，Gazprom宣布无限期停止北溪管道供气。

至此，北溪管道完全处于不使用状态。俄国公司Gazprom说之所以停止供气，是因为西方制裁导致管道用的发动机无法修理和更换。负责维护发动机的西门子公司否定了俄国这一说法，西门子说西方的制裁并不存在对北溪管道的限制。

2022年9月26日，北溪管道1路和北溪管道2路都发生爆炸。爆炸显得像是故意破坏。